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 Post subject: Green Lane Masjid is "SALAFI" by Shaykh Saalih As-Sadlan
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:16 pm 
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Subject: Sheikh Salih As-Sadlan on Green Lane Masjid


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srNZyRoBKSE


And now we have an open invitation to all of the Ghulaat out there:

Come and learn the Manhaj:

Birmingham Winter Conference 2011 - Green Lane Masjid

The Blueprint for Success - The Methodology of the People of Hadith

Friday 23 December 2011 - 26 December 2011

Location: Main Prayer Hall

Time: 9:30am - 10:30pm

Language: Arabic with English translation
By: Various

The speakers for the conference will be inshaAllah:


Shaykh Sa'd bin Nasir Al-Shithri - Former member, Council of Senior Scholars, Saudi Arabia


Shaykh Hamad Abdul-Muhsin Al-Tuwaijri - Professor Imam Muhamaad bin Sa'ud University


Shaykh Abdul Azeez Al-Sadhan - Student of Shaykh Bin Baz, Shaykh ibn Jibreen, Shaykh Ghudayan & others


Shaykh Muhammad Ahmad Al-Loah - Chancellor, The African College of Islamic Sciences, Senegal


Shaykh Faisal Al-Jasim - Kuwait


Shaykh Abdul Haqq Al-Turqumani - UK


All lectures will be in Arabic & translated into English


All Brothers & Sisters welcome


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 Post subject: Re: wait a minute!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:13 am 
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as salaamu alaikum,

wasn't shaykh sadlaan suspect at one time?


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 Post subject: Re: Green Lane Masjid is "SALAFI" by Shaykh Saalih As-Sadlan
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:50 pm 
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Please update me if any of these Shuykh will be at Masjid al-Tawheed in Leyton.


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 Post subject: Re: Green Lane Masjid is "SALAFI" by Shaykh Saalih As-Sadlan
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:43 pm 
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Another Testimonial for Green Lane Masjid: Shaykh Al-Sadhan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoiob6CyXDw

As for Abu Khadeejah Ibn Saalih and his lies then:

Put your Hans Wher Dictionary away and stop blogging with vanity and deception with material you cannot read, understand or reference.

Listen to the advice of Shaykh Fawzaan Yaa Ibna Saalih:

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Seeking Knowledge for the Beginners:

Shaykh Saalih ibn Fowzaan al-Fowzaan

Reference: Al Ajiwibah Al Mufeedah ‘an Asilat Al Manaahij Al Jadeedah: Q:51. /Beneficial Answers to Questions on New Methodologies."(Q:51).

What guidance and advice can you give to the students who are at the beginning stages [of gaining knowledge]?


My advice to the students of knowledge who are at the beginning stages, is that they study under the trustworthy scholars, those who are trustworthy with regards to their ‘Aqeedah, their knowledge and their advice, and that they start with the smaller, summarized books that are available in the different sciences and to memorize them.

Along with this, that they take the explanation of these books from their scholars, little by little/step by step. Specifically the curriculums that are found in the institutions of knowledge and in the Islaamic colleges, as it contains gradual knowledge for the student, where he takes it little by little and thereby achieves a lot of good.

If however a student is not part of a school or college programme, then it is upon him to regularly attend the lessons of the scholars in the Masaajid, whether the lessons are in Fiqh or in Arabic Grammar on in ‘Aqeedah or the like.

As for what some of the youth do now, where they begin with the lengthy and detailed books, or you find that one of them buys books and sits in his house and reads them , then this is not correct and this is not learning, rather this is deception and vanity.

This is what has led to some people speaking in the affairs of knowledge and issuing Fataawa in affairs without knowledge and speaking about Allaah without knowledge, due to not building oneself upon a firm foundation.

So it is essential that one sits in front of the scholars in the circles of knowledge, along with having patience and endurance.

As Imaam As-Shaafi'ee-Rahimahullah- said:

"And whoever does not taste (for a moment) the humility of learning, shall drink from the cup of ignorance for the rest of his life."





So can we expect you to be sitting at the feet of the scholars during this years winter conference at Green Lane Masjid?!

Or will you be busy researching in your house?!


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 Post subject: Re: Green Lane Masjid is "SALAFI" by Shaykh Saalih As-Sadlan
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May Allah protect the wives of the Ghulaat, their sisters and their mothers!

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Special Conference Event For Girls

Tarbiyyah for Girls Class this Conference Weekend in Birmingham

Open to girls (from 6 years to 16 years) from other cities who are attending the conference this weekend!

Saturday 1-3pm
"The evil effects of TV, Movies, Mobile phones, Magazines & Music!"

Sunday 1-3pm
"An advice to young Muslim girls growing up in British Society - 'Women of the Past, Women of the Present!"

* £20 for both sessions.
* First come, first served - The places get filled very quickly, so please do not delay if you wish your daughters to attend.
* Free copy of Tarbiyyah for Girls magazine for attendees from outside of Birmingham!

* Subject matter reviewed by Abu Khadeejah Abdul-Waahid



"Subject matter reviewed by Abu Khadeejah Abdul-Waahid"

I am sure he has reviewed the matter very well indeed with his corrupt shoorah members.

You cannot give what you do not have.

Only a complete idiotic muqallid will allow his young girls to receive "Tarbiyyah" from the perverted Abu Khadeejah Abdul-Waahid!

Only a few years ago, one of the "young girls" complained to her parents that Abu Khadeejah was telling them that:

"Soon you will know the love of men."

And why is this event open to "girls" from "Other Cities."?

Where are the young girls from Small Heath/Birmingham who have received this great and amazing Tarbiyyah from Abu Khadeejah?!

Is it because people from "other cities" do not know the reality of the Ghulaat families and their marriages?!

It is as Yahyaa Hajooree said:

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فقد نُشِرَ أَنَّ عندهم عشرات الأولاد يأخذون عليهم آلاف الدولارات!!!




This is all another cover up to tell "young girls" to become second wives, to live on the welfare state for the rest of your life and to sacrifice your lives and your parents so that the sexual predators from Wright St can satisfy their carnal desires!

You Shall Know Them by Their Fruits!


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 Post subject: Re: Green Lane Masjid is "SALAFI" by Shaykh Saalih As-Sadlan
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:47 pm 
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This made me laugh:

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This Conference is in reality a "Dawrah 'Ilmiyyah" - A knowledge based series of lectures that will raise your level of knowledge, inshaa'Allaah. We strongly advise that you bring writing pads and pens; that you prepare yourself for seeking knowledge. Your concentration, punctuality and keenness will be important this weekend!



"This Conference is in reality a "Dawrah 'Ilmiyyah"

So its not only for "young girls" from "other cities."

"We strongly advise that you bring writing pads and pens."

This advice should be directed towards Abu Khadeejah before anyone else. For the past 10 years + when has he ever carried a pad and a pen?! He never even used to attend Abu Talha's lectures!

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Bring your note pads and pens to gain some serious benefits

Make sure you write down the benefits.

Important principles need to written down so you can truly benefit and understand.

Note pads and pens!

Please make sure you write down quotes and principles - have a spare note pad ready!



Now they do sound desperate!

The only problem is that many of the Ghulaat Muqallid followers do not comprehend and some cannot even read and write to an acceptable standard!

But:

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Your concentration, punctuality and keenness will be important this weekend!


Why this Weekend............?!

My advice: Bring your note pads and pens and come and sit at the feet of the Ulemaa in Green Lane Masjid!


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 Post subject: Re: Green Lane Masjid is "SALAFI" by Shaykh Saalih As-Sadlan
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:39 pm 
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For the benefit of Ibnu Saalih, who sits at home compiling his E-Fataawa and plotting and planning against The Salafees specifically and against The Muslims generally:

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Subject:Asking For Allaah’s Mercy For Those who Fell into Innovations Connected to Aqidah | 4 | If You Call Someone an Innovator Either He Really is or it Goes Back on You

And finally I want to remind you of a reality about which there is no difference but I wanted to add something else to it which many of our youth in this day and age do not ponder over.

This reality is the statement he عليه السلام made in many hadiths, “Whoever declares a Muslim to be a disbeliever has committed disbelief,” this is a reality about which there is no doubt, and the detailed explanation of this is well-known from some other hadiths, i.e., if the one he has declared to be a disbeliever is [in fact] a disbeliever then he is correct but if not then it goes back on him.

This does not require a discussion because the hadith about it is clear, but I wanted to add to it and say: whoever declares a Muslim to be an innovator then either that Muslim [who he declared to be an innovator really] is an innovator or if not then he [i.e., the one who accused the other of being an innovator] is the innovator.

And this is the reality which I mentioned to you just now: that our youth declare the scholars to be innovators and they are the ones who have fall into innovation whilst they know not, and they [i.e., these hasty youth] do not want to commit innovations in fact they fight them, but the saying of the poet applies to them:

Sa’d led the camels to water while being wrapped up
Not like this, O Sa’d, are the camels taken to drink

[Ed. Note: namely he led the camels to water while being wrapped up such that he could not take his hands out of his garment, and thus did not perform his duty of tending to the camels correctly, and it is an example used for someone who falls short in carrying out a matter.]

For this reason, I advise our youth to stick to acting upon the Book and the Sunnah within the limits of their knowledge and not to tower over others who they cannot match in either knowledge or understanding, and maybe even righteousness.

So people like [Imaam] An-Nawawi and Al-Haafidh Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaani–give me someone in the [whole of the] Islamic world like these two men.

Leave Sayyid Qutb, he was a man we revere for his jihaad but he was no more than an author, a man of letters, a composer [of words]–but he was not a scholar so there is nothing odd about the fact that things and things and things emanated from him which opposed the correct methodology.

As for the ones who alongside him mention An-Nawawi and Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaani and others like them … it is oppression to say about them that they are from the people of innovation, I know that they were both Ash’aris but they both did not intend to [wilfully] oppose the Book and the Sunnah, they erred and thought two things about the Ash’ari aqidah that they inherited: firstly that Imaam al-Asha’ri held that view but he only did so in the earlier days because he came back from holding that opinion, and secondly, they were under the false impression that it was correct, but it is not.

[Addressing the questioner:] Bring what you have [i.e., mention what beneficial points of knowledge you have] …

Questioner: O Shaikh, from the manhaj of the Salaf was that they would not judge a man to be from Ahlus-Sunnah except when he would have the characteristics of the [Ahlus-]Sunnah, and that if he innovated or praised the people of innovation then he would be counted as one of them, as the Salaf would say for example, “Whoever says that Allaah is not above the Heavens then he is a Jahmee.”

Al-Albaani: Some of that is present, but do not forget what I just said to you: this does not mean that he is not a Muslim, just as when the Prophet عليه السلام did not pray over the one who died whilst having a debt or the one who acted unfaithfully regarding the war booty or the one who killed someone [all of this] does not mean that such a person is not a Muslim. This, O my brother, is to educate as we explained before, this is something else.

If the Salafi narrations are not complementing each other or unanimous [mutawaatir] then it is not fitting that a manhaj is based upon a saying from an individual from the Salaf. Thereafter this manhaj is in opposition to what is known from the Salaf themselves: that a Muslim does not leave the fold of Islaam simply by committing an act of disobedience or an innovation or a sin which he perpetrates. So when we find someone who differed with this principle we go back to explaining it as I just mentioned to you, that it is to reprimand and discipline/educate.

We have [an example] in Imaam Bukhaari, and what will explain to you what Imaam Bukhaari was? [i.e., how great a scholar he truly was] Some of the scholars of hadith left Imaam Bukhaari and would not narrate from him, why? Because Imaam Bukhaari differentiated between the one who says the Quraan is created–[for he regarded the one who said this as being] misguided, an innovator, a disbeliever, according to the terminology the scholars have used concerning such people–and the one who said, ‘My pronunciation of the Quraan is created.”

Imaam Ahmad stated that the one who said this statement, i.e., that my pronunciation of the Quraan is created, is a Jahmee, and based upon this ruling some of the people who came after Imaam Ahmad ruled that Imaam Bukhaari is not to be taken from because he has made a statement of the Jahmees. The Jahmiyyah do not say that only one’s pronunciation of the Quraan is created, they [in fact] say that the Quraan is not the Speech of Allaah but is just another part of Allaah’s creation.

So what is then said about [Imaam] al-Bukhaari who made the statement, ‘My pronunciation of the Quraan is created?’ and [what is said about] Imaam Ahmad who said that whoever makes that statement is a Jahmi?

It is not possible for us to reconcile between both issues except by interpreting it correctly in a way which corresponds to the principles … and before I continue, I think along with me, you [do] differentiate between the one who says the Quraan is created and the one who says that his pronunciation of the Quraan is created, don’t you?

Questioner: Yes,

Al-Albaani: So, how will we answer the statement of Imaam Ahmad that whoever says my pronunciation of the Quraan is created is a Jahmi? How do we answer this statement?

There is no answer except for what I mentioned to you, that it was to warn the Muslims from saying something which the people of innovation and misguidance, i.e., the Jahmiyyah, will take as a means [of calling the people to their falsehood]. So maybe someone, to try to make those around him fall into a problem they will have no way of escaping from, will say, ‘My pronunciation of the Quraan is created,’ but who [really] intends [that] the Quraan itself [is created] when he says that, but it is not necessary that everyone who says this statement intends that same evil meaning.

So now, Imaam Bukhaari has no need for anyone to claim that he is pure–for Allaah the Mighty and Majestic has shown him to be pure, since [right] after the Noble Quraan, Allaah made all of his book [i.e., Sahih Bukhari] accepted amongst the generality of Muslims despite the differences amongst those Muslims.

Thus, when he [i.e., Imaam Bukhaari] said, ‘My pronunciation of the Quraan is created,’ he meant something correct by it [and not the evil meaning intended by the innovators], but Imaam Ahmad feared [the outcome of this] and so said, ‘Whoever says that is such and such,’ to warn [the people] and not by way of believing that everyone who says that is truly a Jahmi, no.

For this reason when we find a ruling in the statements of some of the Salaf that whoever falls into innovation then he is an innovator it is to rebuke and not by way of believing [that everyone who does so is an innovator].




http://shaikhalbaani.wordpress.com/2011 ... ck-on-you/


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 Post subject: Re: Green Lane Masjid is "SALAFI" by Shaykh Saalih As-Sadlan
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:58 pm 
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Another benefit for Ibnu Saalih:

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Self-Conceited Student of Knowledge, how dare you issue a fatwaa?

So it is [a must] for him to actualise this aayah, “So ask the people of the message if you do not know.”

For the example of these people who are not from the people of knowledge or from those capable of passing verdicts and yet have the audacity to [actually] issue religious verdicts [fatwas] is like that of the man who the Prophet عليه السلام supplicated against by asking Allaah the Mighty and Majestic to destroy him because he passed a religious verdict which led to the death of an innocent Muslim soul.

You know this hadith which Abu Dawud reported in his Sunan, that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم sent out an expedition where they fought, evening came and went and in the morning one of them got up after having had a wet dream, he also had a great many wounds on his body. He asked the people with him if they thought he had a concession not to take a bath from ritual impurity. They replied saying that he must take a bath, so he did but died.

When news of this reached Allaah’s Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم he supplicated against him [i.e., against the one who issued the verdict], saying, “They killed him, may Allaah kill them! Why did they not ask if they did not know? Verily, the cure for ignorance is to ask …” The student of knowledge must always and forever keep this hadith before his eyes so that he does not dare to deliver a religious verdict and so be afflicted with the same thing that the man whom the Prophet supplicated against was afflicted with, when he supplicated that Allaah the Blessed and Most High kill him.

And from what has preceded it comes to light that the bad consequences of being bold in giving fatwas affect the mufti firstly, and the one whom the ruling applies to, secondly.

Thus, once this meaning has established itself in the students of knowledge who have not attained familiarity with the Book and the Sunnah and [nor with] following up the statements of the Imaams and comparing them and choosing the strongest one amongst them, but [who have] only [learnt] how to say, ‘I think such and such … I understand it to be like this …’–then let these people free themselves from/avoid both of these calamities which I just pointed to: firstly, that they themselves fall into a mistake, and [secondly] that they cause others to err.

And that is [achieved] by asking the people of knowledge and after that it is not their responsibility as to whether the one who issued the fatwa was mistaken or not. Because if he is correct, then how excellent, and if he made a mistake then the sin is on the one who issued it–so instead of him bearing the responsibility himself because he gave a verdict without knowledge and [as a result also] embroiled [in the problem] the one he gave the verdict to, [a verdict] not based upon knowledge, let him leave that sin for someone else …

And this does not mean that our youth, in their asking the people of knowledge, do not try to seek information about one scholar or another–between a mere claimant to knowledge and a true scholar, between a scholar of a madhhab and those ignorant of the Book and the Sunnah, and this is another issue.

What is important is that he asks those in whose knowledge and religion he trusts, when he does so he will not fall into the problem which that person who gave the verdict that the injured Companion had to take a bath fell into, and because of his ignorance of the Sunnah, he did not give the [correct] fatwa that it was [in fact] permissible for him to perform tayammum because water was harmful to him. And it really did harm him and was the cause of his death.

So this is a statement [I’ve made] and maybe I’ve prolonged it but I hope that Allaah the Mighty and Majestic will give us the tawfiq to act upon beneficial knowledge and that He makes us aware of our own worth and that He does not make us from those who are self-conceited, for self-importance is a pitfall, there being no greater trap than it.

Al-Hudaa wan-Noor, 181.



http://shaikhalbaani.wordpress.com/2011 ... -a-fatwaa/


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 Post subject: Re: Green Lane Masjid is "SALAFI" by Shaykh Saalih As-Sadlan
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:39 pm 
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Green Lane Conference starts tonight at 8 pm UK Time.

You can watch the whole conference LIVE on:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/green-lane-masjid-live

There was a Q&A session today after Jum'aa with Shaykh Sa'd Ash-Shitri:

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19337748

Warning: Adverts appear at the beginning that maybe unsuitable!


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 Post subject: Re: Green Lane Masjid is "SALAFI" by Shaykh Saalih As-Sadlan
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Question for the SP Ghulaat:

If "The Sunnah is tied to Unity and Harmony and Bid'ah is tied to Splitting and Differing" THEN:

Why does your Dawah Split and Weaken the Salafees and does NOT Unite them?!

Is it because your Dawah is in reality based on Ghuloo, Lies and Fabrications?!

Or is it because you have the characteristics of the Bid'ah of the Khawaarij in your harshness, your ghuloo, your hizbiyyah and your mass Tabd'ee of the Salafees?!

Food for Thought!


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