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 Post subject: Latest Kuffaar Strategies for Muslim Communities
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:13 am 
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As-salaamu 'alaykum,


Plans by the kuffaar to tap into the Muslim communities in the West have come to the fore due to recent events taking place.

For example, ideas to create 'British Islams' or 'French Islams' or 'American Islam' are currently being devised by kuffaar strategists and think-tanks.

One of these such plans has been formulated in a recent research paper conducted by Cheryl Benard for the RAND Corporation, US National Security Research Division and supported by the Smith Richardson Foundation. The report is intended, as stated in her preface, to be of interest to policy makers, scholars, students etc.

Benard's research thesis/paper can be seen on pdf format at www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR1716/MR1716.sum.pdf and in it, entitled Civil Democratic Islam - Partners, Resources and Strategies.

She notes that the paper has been written after certain events in which the kuffaar now plan to develop and manipulate the Muslim communities that reside in their countries as minorities and attempt to nurture their Islam in accordance to Western values and also so as not to present the kuffaar as being anti-Islam.

Benard notes the differences amongst the Muslims, and she composes 4 strands of Islamic thought, namely:
1) Fundamentals, Radical and Scriptural
2) Traditionalists
3) Modernists and
4) Secularists

It is obvious where the Salafees fall in (Scriptural Fundamentalist/Traditionalists), but Benard notes that the modernists should be the ones that are supported, buttressed and financially backed by the kuffaar West in order to facilitate the spread of 'Democratic principles and common civic humanitarian ideals' (in the US view that is). She even includes the likes of Qaraadaawee as being traditionalists!?

Benard also proposes to promote Sufism due to the emphasis on music, mysticism, 'spirituality' etc fits well into promoting peace and suppressing terror etc.

So here then we can see so much for those Soofee da'ees that always attack the Salafees (AH Murad/TJ Winter, Hamza Yoosuf and Nooh Keller for example) when it was always obvious that 'Abdul-Hakeem Muraad's own Cambridge educated attitude influenced his writings and attacks on the Salafees.

She also argues that traditionalists should be supported in their arguements against the fundamentalists, and in fact these discourses should be promoted.

Benard also seems to have done her fair share of research, quoting some of the latest websites to justify her arguments. She manages to find a quote from Abdur-Raheem Green about democracy, referring to "Shaykh Abdur-Raheem Green says..." and then quotes from one of Abdur-Raheem's old articles wherein he critized democracy about 9-10 years ago!

Benard displays a particular disdain for Saudi saying, as if talking directly to her kuffaar colleagues
"Clearly, our strategy toward Saudi is based on geopolitical, tactical and economic considerations and does not represent an endorsement of that regime or its lifestyle and ideology." (pp. 27)

She also makes a number of massive errors in her biased report and this can be seen on page 29 wherein she claims that the tradionalists do not really consist of young men.

She mentions also that "Incorrect policies had also inadvertently elevated a backward strain of Islam over its more secular, moderate expression by allowing a small but vocal and aggressive minority of extremists and conservatives to become the self-styled leaders of that community."

Benard's promotion of the modernist school of thought is very dangerous arguing, "Instead, we allow our vision of Judaism's or Christianity's true message to dominate over the literal text, which we regard as history and legend. That is exactly the approach of the Islamic modernists..." (pp. 37)

She does however note the limitations of the modernists, such as: their distance from the average Muslim on the street; no connection to Muslim youth; no publications available; no monies!; no media; no institutions; no educational centres; isoloated; too integrated with their kuffaar surroundings to tap into the Muslim communities; academic; not attractive to journalists etc; not found in Islamc schools etc. (pp. 39-40)

Benard contradicts herself in her report as she argues that the modernists, fools such as Bassam Tibi et al, should be the Muslims who define Islam, not the others, as they represent minority opinions.

Yet these modernists themselves, she even states, represent an even smaller minority so where is the democracy here that she is so fanatical in bolstering!?

She also mentions the strengths of the traditionalist, that's us i think, and the brothers and sisters can check that out.


Page 47 is the chaper on the 'Proposed Strategy' to be implemented and here she notes that modernists should be supported first amongst the Muslims, not the traditionalists, as those who present the face of contemporary Islam.

Traditionalists, she argues should only be supported in so far as they argue against the fundamentalists.

What is very dangerous is her recommendation to financially help and support modernist Islamic thought through encouraging new websites; modernist textbook authors for curriculum; usage of media wherein modernists can express their baatil views; cheap price books that expose modernist Islamic thought for Muslim youth (pp.48).

Page 50-53 sees her pathetic attempt to disect hadeeth science and this in itself needs a separate refutation.


She also has an issue with the hijab on pages 58-59, again this needs a separate refutation, as she trys to say that not all Muslim women agree with the hijaab, so why is it always promoted, even by the kuffaar media as being a nice thing!?

If there are women that do not agree with the hijaab, then simply, what kind of 'Muslim' are they!? 'Modernists' i suspect.

She notes on page 61 that the modernists should be made into heroes and heroins and civil rights leaders?!

On page 62, she asserts that the causal relationship between traditionalism and underdevelopment should be shown. Again brothers and sisters, we need to be aware in the da'wah, as their are people that are really attempting to critique Islam and the Salafee da'wah.

Abdul-Haq ibn Kofi Akumyaa ibn Kwesi Addae ibn al-Ashanti

Riyadh


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 Post subject: Ltest Kuffaar Strategies for Muslim Communities
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:35 am 
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Secret Whitehall plan to win over Muslim youth

Islamic leaders sceptical about scheme to discourage support for al-Qaida by vetting radical imams and assisting moderates


Hugh Muir
Monday May 31, 2004
The Guardian
Secret government plans designed to win the "hearts and minds" of young Muslims and dissuade the vulnerable from resorting to terrorism were strongly criticised by community organisations yesterday.

Tony Blair has assembled a group of senior civil servants from nine Whitehall departments to work on a project, codenamed Contest, aimed at the 10,000 young Muslims whom officials fear may be sympathetic to al-Qaida.

The project, details of which were revealed yesterday in cabinet documents leaked to the Sunday Times, would lead to an unprecedented level of government intervention in the political and religious practices of Muslim communities.

Under the plan radical foreign imams would be vetted abroad and those who refused to "sign up" to the British way of life would be barred from the country. At the same time moderate spiritual leaders in the UK would be given government support.

The government might fund moderate Islamic newspapers, television and radio stations. Young Muslim "ambassadors" would be named so as to project an Islam-friendly image of Britain. The government may also seek to amend the Race Relations Act to make religious discrimination a criminal offence.


The Commission on British Muslims and Islamophobia warns in a new report of growing alienation among young Muslims. Richard Stone, the commission chairman, said the Whitehall solution repre-sented a top-down approach. "They don't seem to have significant Muslim voices in this discussion and that is a problem." He said excessive emphasis was being placed on Muslim communities.

According to the Sunday Times the project was prompted by the attacks in March on commuter trains in Madrid, and the discovery in London of materials for bombs.

The thinking behind Contest was outlined by Sir Andrew Turnbull, the cabinet secretary, in a letter to departments on April 6. "The aim is to prevent terrorism by tackling its causes ... to diminish support for terrorists by influencing social and economic issues."

In a note to the Home Office permanent secretary, John Gieve, Sir Andrew called for a blueprint to win "the hearts and minds" of Muslim youth.

Sir Andrew wrote: "Al-Qaida and its offshoots provide a dramatic pole of attraction for the most disaffected. The broader task is to address the roots of the problem, which include discrimination, disadvantage and exclusion suffered by many Muslim communities."

Officials were given stark statistics at an interdepartmental meeting on May 19. An audit, cited by the Home Office, had found that 16% of working-age Muslims had never worked or were long-term unemployed; more than four in 10 had no recognised educational qualification.

Terrorists were seeking support both from poor disadvantaged Muslim and the young, educated, middle class. One briefing document linked to the Contest project said: "Extremists are known to target schools and colleges where young people may be very inquisitive but less challenging and more susceptible to extremist reasoning/arguments."

Banned groups continued simply by changing their names. Ministers were advised to "intervene at key trigger points". Another briefing paper said: "We need to understand the evolution of the terrorist career path ... to enable us to turn people from [it]."

Yesterday a government spokeswoman said: "The government is taking its relationship with the Muslim community very seriously."


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:10 am 
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assalamauaalykum

Interesting points brother Abdul Haq.

It is only the traditionalists, those who desire to folow the mehtodlogy of ahlul hadeeth that have the best solutions.

The kuffar don't realise due to their ignorance that many of these Modernist types even though they lack respect for the shariah have great reverance to people with bad ideas like Sayyid Qutb may Allah forgive him. And they many times these kafir journalists blame Qutb and call him and Ibn Taymiyyah people who the "wahabis" follow.

Also many times ignoramouses like Abu Hamza the Egyptian living under the protection of the Queen of England and Faisal the Jamaican living in London are misunderstood as "Wahabi" or Salafi. Whereas they are from the most EVIL people from the muslims and those who have despicable speech. And i think it is good they are taken away and locked up. We may not be pleased that they are judged by other than the law of Allah. but it was their choice to live in these countries, some people who follow them don't even think Makkah and Madina are darul-islam - may Allah guide them!
Though if these people are locked up, beaten, taken to guantanamo bay - then surely it would be better for the muslims as they will not be spreading their filth, also I am certain many of these kuffar will fight for some sort of rights for these individuals in prison, while if they were in Egypt or Yemeni prisons you'd never hear from them again. The sad thing ius many of their followers think they are fighting in the way of Allah, may Allah guide us all. Aameen


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:12 pm 
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Wa alaykumus Salaam
Yaa Khaalid,
It has been taught on a large scale in America that there are no Islaamic Countries in the world. The statement was that there are Muslim countries but not "Islaamic Countries". the statement was further that if there are some elements that are not Islaamic it can't be an Islaamic country.
Many people who were taught that did not know better and thought that was right. Wal hamdulillaah, they/we are learning better.
The statements you made indicate how true the statements are that we learned from the people of knowledge about the khawaarij how all they have ever done is create problems for the people who are correct and they never establish themselves as a system, etc.
Baarak Allaah fee
Was salaamu alaykum
Abu Jamiylah Abdul Malik


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 Post subject: check this link
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:57 pm 
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assalaamu alaykum,

check this link...
enough said really, i wonder who is funding this?

http://www.***.com/


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